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26 March 2014
Introduction
Malaysian flight MH370 went missing on 8 March with 239 people on board. It was en routed from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing Perth , Australia
The Johor Housewife
A Johor housewife, Mrs Latife Dalelah, claimed that she saw an aircraft half submerged in the waters at about 2:30 pm Malaysian time (same for the rest) when she was returning to Kuala Lumpur after a pilgrimage to Mecca on 8 March. The news said that she took Saudis flight SV2058 that left Jeddah at 8.30am but actually, she took Saudis flight SV2798 and not SV2058 as shown in the attached.
Flight Path of SV 2798
According to flightradar’s flight history, Saudis Airline SV2788’s flight path is as shown. On 8 March 2014, SV 2798 took the red dotted path flying over Chennai of India.
Using the flight data found at flightrada24, one could determine that flight SV2798 was above Chennai at around 1300 hour (5:00 UTC). It then jumped to show SV2798 at the marked location at 1500 hours as there was no data in flightradar24 for 2 hours between the two time intervals on 8 March. If one interpolates the time and distance, one could find the rough location where Mrs Latife Dalelah sighted the airplane at 14:30 hours. It was at a distance almost perpendicular to the site where Tomnod map 4543, 5239 and other maps were located.
Update:
For those interested in finding out the co-ordinates of the various Tomnod maps using Google Earth or Google Map can download this file. It will load and appear automatically in Google Earth or map. To get the co-ordinates, click the "direction" at the bottom. What is Tomnod map?
Tomnod is a website where it allows volunteers to spot and tag any object using satellite images. So far, some of the maps showing possible debris findings were circulated around in various forums and twitted around as shown in the Appendix.
Can one see object from a plane flying at around 35,000 feet?
Many web articles said can. One of them claimed that we could see a 737 plane or smaller ones from 30,000 feet and 777 is almost twice the size of 737. He assumed that one should have a normal vision, or vision that was corrected to be normal.
This website offered a calculator that says that human eyes can see an object about 250 miles away from 35,000 feet. This is roughly the distant from where Mrs Latife Dalelah was to the Tomnod maps.
The Satellite Pinging
The experts used doppler effect of the satellite pinging and the 4 pings to pin-point the where-about of MH370. Although this Doppler effect of satellite pinging was never used before to locate a plane, many, including the Malaysian PM, have accepted it beyond reasonable doubts. This Doppler effect concept appears to go against Mrs Latife Dalelah’s plane sighting because the plane was not moving after it had crashed. It could not have been providing the satellite pings with Doppler effect throughout the next 4 hours. The only logical explanation that can hold some water is that the aircraft’s satellite pinger might be floating after the crash and was transmitting the signal although the quality, strength and also the frequency of the signal could be affected after being partly submerged in water.
Conclusion
There could and just may be possible that Mrs Latife Dalelah had seen flight MH370. If that is the case, the multi-nation search now carrying out in the southern Indian Ocean west of Australia
Update 1: Check the vision of the lady 26 March
Update 2: How deep is the seamount 26 March
A Chinese forumer took a photo of Lanzhou airport from a plane. He said he was about 10,000 metres (or about 32,800 feet) high and about 200 km away when he took the following picture with his Canon digital camera that has no focusing function. The parking planes can be seen roughly.
Update 4: Timing of the sighting - 28 March
Mrs Latife Dalelah saw the plane floating in the water at 2:30 pm Malaysian time and the Malaysian's military radar spotted the plane flying around Andaman sea and disappeared from the limit of its screen around 2:15 am, about 200 miles North West of Penang. There is an approximate 10 hours between the two locations. Although the plane might take another hour to fly to the crash site, the timing is against Mrs Latife Dalelah's plane sighting unless the plane could float in the water with air pockets in the fuselage and the wings for about 9 hours.
Update 5: Can Plane float in the water? - 28 March
Plane will eventually sink when landed on water. The time taken will depend on the condition of the aircraft, how it is damaged as well as the pressure within the aircraft and whether there are still air pockets large enough to hold up the plane. In the history of aviation, most planes landed on water sunk within an hour. However, on 23 November 1996, there was an Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961 (a Boeing 767-260ER) floated in the Indian Ocean for some time until the 50 survivors were rescued.
Appendix I: Tomnod maps
1) Tomnod map 4534 and 5239
Tomnod map 4534 and 5239 contain some satellite images debris that were suspected to be from MH370.
5239 appears to show the 2 engines of the Boeing 777
It matches the dimensions of Boeing 777 when a 777 was superimposed as shown in the following picture.
Isn't the engines supposed to have sunk?
It may be because the plane actually hit the seamount as it crashed (see google earth map) and the plane did not sink immediately when the satellite image was taken. The waves or ripples created on top and around the right wing suggested some very big boards as large as a wing of a plane was submerged underneath the water. Just like what was seen here for this plane
Map 4543 which shows some debris that appears to match one of the logo of MAS airline “Malaysia
It matches the dimensions of Boeing 777 when a 777 was superimposed as shown in the following picture.
It may be because the plane actually hit the seamount as it crashed (see google earth map) and the plane did not sink immediately when the satellite image was taken. The waves or ripples created on top and around the right wing suggested some very big boards as large as a wing of a plane was submerged underneath the water. Just like what was seen here for this plane
Map 4543 which shows some debris that appears to match one of the logo of MAS airline “
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